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Firelok
23-10-2006, 16:37
Within a month were going to have the new addon's Manchuria and VVS46. Manchuria isn't going to required much brow-beating, SovietvsIJA scenarios and Chinese Nationalist Air Forces(plus the AVG)vsIJA arn't really going to cause much of a stir.
However the contents of the VVS46 part needs some in-depth discussion in general terms as to what should(and shouldn't be used.)
We already have quite a few 'planes that never flew'(in terms of combat anyway.) such as the 109Z 'twin' and the YP80 and a number of other planes (mostly Luftwaffe) but this is going to be increased a lot by the addition of VVS Jets and even more bonkers LW stuff.
So here's my question...Should us map-makers make use of all this content or not? by adding 'fantasy' scenarios.
I know Ice-Fire is maybe working on Iron-Curtain(USAAF/RAF/LW types vs VVS i think.) and I've almost completed a scenario that involves the YP80 vs Ho-229 (25lbSpits/190D9/Kurfurst's/P38Late.Do335s etc.) in a snowy 45 winter western front, provisionally called Rhineland, undoubtably a 'fantasy' map.(see below)
Jet's above the snow clouds.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e150/firelokc/jet1.jpg
Do335's and Spits in the murk.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e150/firelokc/jet3.jpg
Should us map-makers make use of all this content or not?
And is it heresy??
Your thoughts please everyone.. :)

Algorex
23-10-2006, 16:52
Damn right it's heresy, so you better get the maps done and uploaded, so we can point out how historically inaccurate and unbalanced they are!

Although to be able to whine properly we'll probably need to play these over and over again, so we get the small details of our rant correct.

Gordano
23-10-2006, 16:56
I for one definately want to see the bonkers Luftwaffe designs!!

I think we do need to use our brains though, and as such consider keeping some of the more wacky maps out of the normal rotation and only have so an admin can load them and will therefore still be there if it seems that the current mood on the server means that the map is not going down well and cut it short.

Yellow 2
23-10-2006, 17:52
Could we have one map where most if not all of the fantasy aircraft appear and for good measure any that we have now that don't get a look in under the current set up?

If it is reserved for use at an admins discretion so be it. I would like to see the Arado used though in the general map rotation.

Thanks to the map makers for getting us off the ground. :D

Zorin
23-10-2006, 18:06
The Arado will be featured in a western late 1944 map I'll make. Be sure.

The Lerche, as a vertical take off plane, can be brought to use just perfectly as a point defense weapon, close to the target area, as it doesn't need an airfield to start from. And limited to like 5 or such it won't be impacting the dogfight scene.

stanford
23-10-2006, 18:12
I'd hate to see all the goodies wasted. I'm with Gordano on the out-of-rotation idea.

I also would like to see the Arado on mainstream maps.

NS-IceFire
23-10-2006, 23:48
I'm game for some 1946 fun. The stuff is there...lets make use of it. Its a bit like our Spanish map...its not exactly historical (the scenario itself is but the planes are not quite) but its a blast to experience different things and have a huge breadth of experience on the server. UK Dedicated does that so well.

I'm hoping to be making a map featuring the jets in 1946 on the new Ukraine map as well as remakes of Autumn Storm (on the Manchuria map), Tirpitz (on the Norway map when that comes), and possibly Khalkin Gol (unless someone does it before me).

Yellow 2
24-10-2006, 13:55
The Norway map would lend itself to a shipping strike scenario where Mosquitos and Beaufighters of the Dallachy and Banff strike wings attack shipping off the Norwegian coast. Escort could be provided by P51s which flew from Peterhead.

For those of you who don't know where Dallachy and Banff are. :D

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Barracks/6344/dallachy.htm

http://www.scotshistoryonline.co.uk/rafbanff.html

There is a very nice roadside monument at Dallachy commemorating the strike wing and the crews that lost their lives.

Firelok
26-10-2006, 01:53
Could we have one map where most if not all of the fantasy aircraft appear and for good measure any that we have now that don't get a look in under the current set up?

If it is reserved for use at an admins discretion so be it. I would like to see the Arado used though in the general map rotation.

Thanks to the map makers for getting us off the ground. :D
^^^Not unlike the Alps map there used to be.^^^
I can easily create something of a testbed for all of our new A/C with a little more design like dedicated runways for the Me163s and the BI-1 rocket too.
So we can easily add all the really whacked-out stuff easily and quickly next month. Admin called of course.