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Firelok
20-12-2006, 11:55
Ok, I've put up a 1946 map called (you guessed it) 1946.mis that contains all of the new flyable jet content,plus the old jets and high performance prop craft.
Planeset....

BLUE
Bf-109G-14
He-162A-2
He-162C
He-162B
He-L-IIIB2
Me-163B-1a
Bf-109G-10
Bf-109K-4
Bf-109K-4C3
Do-335A-0
Do-335V-13
Fw-190D-9_Late
Ta-152H-1
Ta-152C
Go-229A-1
Ar-234B-2
Me-262A-1a
Me-262A-1aU4
Me-262A-2a
Me-262HG-II
Ta-183
RED
P-38L_Late
P-47D
P-51D-20NA
P-63C
SpitfireMkIXeHF
SpitfireMkIX25lbs
TempestMkV
P-80A
I-250
Il-10
LaGG-3RD
La-7R
MiG-9protoF-2
MiG-9FS
Yak-3VK-107
Yak-3R
Yak-15
BI-1
BI-6
No weapon or plane limits... I've used some new tank objects inc. the Coelian AAA tank but on the whole this lacks finesse. It does however give us a stupid jet playground however,which was the idea.
Targets for both sides are tanks (late-war/1946) not that a mission win is a primary consideration IMO.
BTW there are 20 tank objects to destroy for each side, If anyone want's to convert this for UK1 use.

Yellow 2
20-12-2006, 12:36
Any chance of putting to two I -185s in? They may be outclassed in this scenario but when do we ever get a chance to use them on any other maps?

Cheers :)

Firelok
20-12-2006, 12:43
Well no really, We have however talked about a possible 'fantasy' Moscow PVO mission, with the MiG3U, maybe this could be a place for the i-185s.
What worries me already about this 1946 planeset is the sheer scale of it and believe me I tried to keep a lid on what was reasonable to put in or not.
There is an idea that large planesets lead to more laggy maps, whether this still applies nowadays.

Anyway Parade rained on..
Cheers :(

NS-IceFire
20-12-2006, 22:52
Thats awesome. Looking forward to it!

I'm also looking forward to planning and building at least one 1946 map of my own. I'm very curious to get into some proper jet fights!

Yellow 2
21-12-2006, 09:16
Well no really, We have however talked about a possible 'fantasy' Moscow PVO mission, with the MiG3U, maybe this could be a place for the i-185s.
What worries me already about this 1946 planeset is the sheer scale of it and believe me I tried to keep a lid on what was reasonable to put in or not.
There is an idea that large planesets lead to more laggy maps, whether this still applies nowadays.

Anyway Parade rained on..
Cheers :(

Not to worry Firelok. If you don't ask you don't get. :D

Firelok
21-12-2006, 11:54
Thats awesome. Looking forward to it!

I'm also looking forward to planning and building at least one 1946 map of my own. I'm very curious to get into some proper jet fights!
Yep this is more of a testbed map really, so folks can have a muck about with the new stuff and some of the odder older stuff.
As for proper balanced 1946 stuff, the Reds have more reliable engines but poor airframes (limiting speed and high speed manouvers) the Blues have dodgier engines but great airframes, The Ta 183 has no engine issues at all BTW.
Most dangerous aircraft and probably least likely to see use on a map are the hybrid rocket planes. Running away from an La7 above 3500m isn't possible anymore.

Gordano
21-12-2006, 22:50
Just tried this map and for some reason it caused huge amounts of lag and warping.

Everyone's framerate was fine, but if you used Shift F2 and Ctrl F2 to look at other aircraft and they would be all over the shop!

According to BROS_Moha in this thread here http://www.battle-fields.com/commscentre/showthread.php?t=12357&page=2 Oleg knows about the problem and from what I gather it is a server side problem.

Not sure how specific aircraft could cause packet loss etc. though :confused:

Would suggest we avoid this map until we know what problems are caused.

Just out of interest, do we get problems on maps where we only have one or two of the new jets added and does having the Japanese planes or IL10 cause the same problem?

NS-IceFire
22-12-2006, 00:41
Could be caused by some of the planes. The Me-163 was always a problem although I think it was later fixed. Same with the Okha flying bomb for COOP missions when it was introduced...one patch later and no problems.

Happy
22-12-2006, 01:50
what about the smoke trails, with so much jets? could that be the cause?
finding it strange what might have caused such a event.

Scrappy_D
22-12-2006, 02:00
Dont forget that SC is database driven and it has no update for the new planes .... ;)

Firelok
22-12-2006, 11:50
Dont forget that SC is database driven and it has no update for the new planes .... ;)
Also just exatly how vast is the planeset too, this is an enormous planeset. I think even when you put static aircraft in large planeset can cause lagginess.
However Scrappy is there with the words of wisdom lets see when we get a proper SC version running. I'm pretty sure that maps work better with 4 or 5 planetypes per side or even less.

Firelok
22-12-2006, 14:50
By way of an interim solution I've reduced the planeset a little...

[RED]
P-51D-20NA
SpitfireMkIX25lbs
TempestMkV
P-80A
Il-10
LaGG-3RD
MiG-9FS
Yak-3VK-107
Yak-15
BI-1
BI-6
[BLUE]
He-162B
He-L-IIIB2
Me-163B-1a
Bf-109K-4C3
Do-335V-13
Ta-152C
Ar-234B-2
Me-262HG-II
Ta-183
So not everything new is available, I left out the mixed propulsion things for one and removed some of the prop planes.
So if you have the time please check it out again and report back. :)

Sonko
23-12-2006, 11:30
Hehe, I'm very courious about how many people will be able to fly the BI-1 successfully :cool: :D

Gordano
23-12-2006, 15:01
I'm not to bad with it Sonko,

You just have to remember to keep an eye on your speed above 700 km/h or be prepared to do a nice uncontrolled negative G loop :D

Firelok
05-01-2007, 16:53
I think the latest patch might have sorted out the horrible strange lagginess of this map. I called it up this morning and flew around quite happily in a Lerche and a MiG. Time to try it with more pilots I think.

Firelok
06-01-2007, 11:56
Flew this again with some other pilots late last night and it all works well, I'm going to switch back to the 'full-fat' version as the problems here where related to 4.07m rather than the large planeset I think.
*note*
All 1946 content is on this map now and the other jets and late-war high performance prop craft of all European armies.

irish
25-01-2007, 23:52
I'm not to bad with it Sonko,

You just have to remember to keep an eye on your speed above 700 km/h or be prepared to do a nice uncontrolled negative G loop :D


that plane is a horrific nightmare to fly :eek:

MajorDamage
26-01-2007, 00:41
Has anyone tried landing that He-L-IIIB2 spaceship thing? It's the only plane in IL2 that I've ever managed to get an airspeed of minus 140 km/h.

Algorex
26-01-2007, 01:02
Has anyone tried landing that He-L-IIIB2 spaceship thing? It's the only plane in IL2 that I've ever managed to get an airspeed of minus 140 km/h.

Air brakes and speed control are the keys to success.