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Boemher
15-05-2007, 14:41
Can the P47 D27 be supplanted by the P47 D late ? This plane is better overall and would be a good match for Ki 84 and J2M3s.

Cheers

NS-IceFire
15-05-2007, 23:15
Yep. Forgot to do that on the last time through. I think we did add the P-38L Late to the list...which was originally not there when we didn't have as many really good Japanese fighters. Now we do :)

FlyingFinn
16-05-2007, 10:33
No one except some hardcore regulars will fly the Bolt if there's also something else like the Corsair and Stang.

We need the FM unporked asap! :p

Zorin
16-05-2007, 10:39
On a locked pit that might be different, IMO. At least on the MM P47s usually do pretty good.

stanford
16-05-2007, 10:52
Locked pit I'd almost definitely take P38! I love any excuse to fly that plane.

irish
16-05-2007, 13:37
Locked pit I'd almost definitely take P38! I love any excuse to fly that plane.


bubble top P51/P47/F4U all the way in locked pit:cool: :D

Boehmer: You read my mind. I was flying that map a couple days ago and was thinking the same thing. BTW: The P47 D "Late" performs like a P47M.....there was no such thing as a D Late, obviously

For the record: My hometown helped build the FM2's. The engines were made 2 miles from where i stand. Flint FTW111!!!!one1!

Boemher
16-05-2007, 16:11
I used to study 1 mile away from a plant that built thousands of Merlins during WW2

irish
16-05-2007, 17:45
I used to study 1 mile away from a plant that built thousands of Merlins during WW2

nice, does the plant still exist?
the Buick factory was tore down

Gordano
16-05-2007, 18:40
Bits of the Vastly Superior Hurricane were built a few roads away from my house.

The factory is now a rather vastly ghastly new build estate thing....

Sonko
16-05-2007, 19:03
Can the P47 D27 be supplanted by the P47 D late ? This plane is better overall and would be a good match for Ki 84 and J2M3s.

Cheers

Good point, the P47-D27 has no chance against the goofy or the Ki-84, it is worse at anything except armor.

Boemher
16-05-2007, 19:19
nice, does the plant still exist?
the Buick factory was tore down

Parts if it, it is on Clydebank in Glasgow. You can see bits of it on Google Earth

NS-IceFire
16-05-2007, 23:14
The P-47D Late is sort of a poor mans P-47N which is the real plane that saw service over Kyushu. I wasn't infavour of putting it in at first but the late war Japanese game has really improved.

Boemher
24-05-2007, 01:40
Bump for the P47 D Late. It would be much appreciated :fluffle:

Firelok
24-05-2007, 02:00
Plane vs plane I'm not real qualified for but the targets are very difficult for reds, the tanks away in the grasslands it very very difficult to find them. The group on the road in the coast town that's OK.) plus the industrial targets that's OK but dispersed. The Tanks/ army group that's real difficult to ID even with a target camera.

NS-IceFire
24-05-2007, 03:58
Maybe some smoke as in pathfinder style target marking?

Firelok
22-06-2007, 07:53
P 47 D 1944 is on now.
I took the opportunity to make some other tweaks. Smoke from previous bombing at the targets. As far as I know Reds have never won this except by destroying all of blues planes, it made sense to me to try and make the bombing areas more obvious.Associated with that is the fact that a major part of the red bombing effort seems directed at the blue base. I've regularly seen B29s dive in here for low-level attacks of bombs and letting the AI guys strafe up the place. So I took the opportunity to up the defences of the base with more 3x25mm gun emplacements. We have generally moved to higher and higher levels of Base Flak over the last 12 months and this base was a bit lightly defended.
sorry the P47 update took so long.

NS-IceFire
23-06-2007, 01:49
Thanks Firelok. Hopefully the added flak doesn't hurt the frame rate/lag too much. I shied away from a more substantial defense because of this. But the 3x25mm are brutally effective weapons so a few of those should even the score.

MajorDamage
23-06-2007, 10:35
Just out of interest did you add some long range AAA to the red base as well? I've noticed a couple of times that if the teams get uneven the red airstarts tend to get camped by the blue team.

Firelok
23-06-2007, 15:30
Just out of interest did you add some long range AAA to the red base as well? I've noticed a couple of times that if the teams get uneven the red airstarts tend to get camped by the blue team.

I didn't TBO, I didn't even look to see what's defending the red end. I'd like to see if the AAA changes I made cause the problems Ice has mentioned but it's worth thinking about.

NS-IceFire
23-06-2007, 16:58
Red has four 40mm Bofors...I had thought that'd be enough for the landing strip. I've never seen Red's air starts camped successfully...seeing as there are three spots and getting into a fight over them inevitably means that you'll appear under them at some point and someone will get the drop on you.

FlyingFinn
31-12-2007, 15:09
*bump*
'Could it be possible to extend the runway for the allied side?

It's a hard work to land the B-29 on the short strip.

We flew 3 sorties of 4-6 B-29s and we didn't lose a single one until we landed. Almost every B-29 blew up on the runway.

Firelok
04-01-2008, 21:22
*bump*
'Could it be possible to extend the runway for the allied side?

It's a hard work to land the B-29 on the short strip.

We flew 3 sorties of 4-6 B-29s and we didn't lose a single one until we landed. Almost every B-29 blew up on the runway.

Easy enough to alter, don't know if you end up with a 'seam' putting the runways end to end , I don't remember seeing that layout on any of our maps.

I'll have an experiment.:)

FlyingFinn
04-01-2008, 21:33
Thanks, sir.

The end of the runway is causing the most problems because you can't slow down enough and you end up dropping your frontal fuselage into the water and that of course will blow up the whole bird.

Sonko
04-01-2008, 21:54
It is possible to land on that normal runway successfully, one needs to go in really low, though.

of course, a longer runway is always better than a shorter one, good luck with that experiment, Firelok :D

NS-IceFire
04-01-2008, 22:26
I managed to land several times without too much trouble but that was under controlled circumstances and no enemies at my back or battle damage. I never thought more of it.

Firelok, you should be able to overlap them just a tiny bit and it will be fine. Should be ok since its on water which is flat elevation wise in the engine.

Firelok
05-01-2008, 10:08
I've extended the runway as suggested, should be able to land a space shuttle on it now.;)