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Zorin
01-01-2011, 23:02
Hi everyone,

I was wondering if we should relaunch Ukded2 in a proper manner. Since 4.10 has arrived with its new possibilities we might want to try and convert a limited number of classic UKded2 maps into MDS versions so that we get a circle of short DedicatedMissions that will attract the more focused players that enjoy a good mission more than the kill apes.

Opinions welcome.

Fusek
01-01-2011, 23:23
You are right, UK2 could use a jump start. Classic UK2 settings, but with enemy externals disabled, if thats possible in 4.10 please. It would also be a good place to play with all the new features to find a balance between realism and playability, like the radar beacons.

As for the maps, I'm willing to convert some maps, but I understand AI planes can't be flown at the moment? That would limit the plane sets quite a bit I'm afraid.

Zorin
01-01-2011, 23:47
A more pressing question would ne if we allow MODS on UKded2 or not. I would like to see it MOD free. Getting 4.10 right and working the way we want to will be enough hassle, no need to make it even more complicated.

Fusek
02-01-2011, 00:04
I'd suggest waiting for the new UP and at least try it for a few days. It will give us a huge range of planes,maps and other possibilities.Unless we want to keep flying those same spits and 109's.

Tim
02-01-2011, 00:37
Id certainly be joining in on some UK2 flying if we could get a few on.Think the settings should stay the same as they have always been though.

IIJG3_Karaya 1
02-01-2011, 10:16
Well i really like Uk2 settings as they are now.
how about making it like Uk3(so UP ?) with all those maps which are (i heard that) really great, to give people the chance to relive Uk3 feeling a bit without being forced to fly nearly full real :P

Kang
02-01-2011, 11:51
I would love to join back in then. I'd also gladly help with the work involved, provided someone can tell me exactly what has to be done.

I'd suggest waiting for the new UP and at least try it for a few days.
Just pointing out: if you do that it would be UP for good, since trying unmodded later would mean extra work again and that even against the rather strong mod lobby. Trying unmodded while - as I take it - a mod update isn't available yet would make more sense.

IIJG3_Karaya 1
02-01-2011, 13:11
why we dont do it 4.09 with UP and wait for UP update ? like Uk3 does it too...i mean we have UK1 on 4.10 with all those lags and bugs...

ayrtonsenna594
02-01-2011, 13:15
why we dont do it 4.09 with UP and wait for UP update ? like Uk3 does it too...i mean we have UK1 on 4.10 with all those lags and bugs...

dito or for englishmen SAME :cool:

stanford
02-01-2011, 13:48
UKD2 is my favourite server. I remember when it was formed years back through messing about with settings and things just took off. I can't believe that people no longer want those settings... there must be a market for them.

The one thing that always annoyed me was the inability to disable F6 - that was a right pig.

Countless hours were dedicated to UK2 in making some of the most fantastic maps we have to offer. I would be delighted to kick start its relaunch.

In terms of settings - well - the community is massively divided due to mods etc. Personally, I suggest going for vanilla 4.10. We have to do our bit to keep the community as together as possible. While this sucks for AI planes, it's going to take some time to get the server up to capacity anyway and a patch should be out soon enough I hope.

There were nights where UK1 and UK2 where absolutely full and even the admins had to queue for a space.

IIJG3_Karaya 1
02-01-2011, 19:06
Well...personally i need F6 cause im fighting with it as long i dont have to aim ^^ :P
but the CTRL F2 view is maybe a bit... i dont know.its best if you only use it for seeing the targets with static cams...

Shifty
03-01-2011, 15:57
if anyone fancies a game there are a few of us on uk2 now

Tim
03-01-2011, 16:14
Its running 4.09 but I have installed 4.10.Is there a way of switching back or do i need a fresh install?

stanford
04-01-2011, 11:57
I think you can switch between the two by installing UltraPack.

Alternatively, copy your entire IL2 4.09 directory, and patch one to 4.10. That should work, I think.

Algorex
04-01-2011, 12:21
If memory serves me, you can switch between patch versions by switching files.sfs-files. 4.09m files.sfs doesn't load the 4.10m content.

Fusek
04-01-2011, 15:35
Maybe we should take the opportunity to think about the mission concept. With all the new features available to us, it's a bit silly staying at the DF kind of maps we've played for years.

For example, we could host a series of DF mini campaigns. Three or four 30 min missions in a row for a single battle, so you actually see the result of your actions on a battle.

stanford
04-01-2011, 15:54
So maps can be called in order, depending on objectives?

Fusek
04-01-2011, 16:07
Yes, you can make versions for different outcomes :)

stanford
04-01-2011, 16:52
I like the idea, but one 4 mission battle will require 15 maps to model all the possible outcomes. Is that not too much work?

Fusek
04-01-2011, 18:51
Well,they are are variations of a basic layout,so theres more work, but not like its a totally different map.

Boemher
04-01-2011, 22:25
I went on to UKD2 at around 10.15 and it was dead, maybe its because its still 4.09 ?

Anyway, had a quick bash on UKD1 and it was full, great to get back online again and in a Hurricane to boot ! Seemed slightly less uber than in days of old lol

Hopefully see some of you on UKD2 tomorrow night.

IIJG3_Karaya 1
05-01-2011, 07:16
Oo a Hurricane ? ...uber ? Oo....in which alternative reality is this ? xD
its a nice plane but never uber !

Fusek
05-01-2011, 11:51
It all depends on the pilot Karaya ;)

T}{OR
05-01-2011, 13:06
Oo a Hurricane ? ...uber ? Oo....in which alternative reality is this ? xD
its a nice plane but never uber !

Its an old BFs 'thing'. ;)



It all depends on the pilot Karaya ;)

Indeed. :)

Boemher
05-01-2011, 15:54
Karaya we used to have discussions on UKD2 map making forums on removing the Hurricane IIC on some maps because of its uberness !

A bunch of us used to fly it because it was cooler to fly than the Spitfire and after a while we became pretty good in it. Then I found an old British WW2 propaganda news clip about how superior the Hurricane II was to the bf 109 F4 and Ju 88 and it gave birth to the phrase

'The vastly superior Hawker Hurricane' :)

Fusek
05-01-2011, 16:48
Can we do a pros/cons list of all the versions and decide on a version? That would make it easier to get things rolling again ;)

IIJG3_Karaya 1
05-01-2011, 17:02
i prefer the MkIIb...because the C is mostly limited :P

#402FOX
05-01-2011, 17:29
Stick to 4.1 and no mods. I think the mods is far to complicated for the casual gamer. Also their seems to be enough in the new version to keep the map makers happy for a while.

Fusek
05-01-2011, 17:42
What is so complicated about running a .exe? If we switch to UP we have a dozen or so working maps from UK3 ready to go. And UP has loads more options for both players and us mapmakers than 4.10 has.

UglyDuck
05-01-2011, 18:01
What is so complicated about running a .exe? If we switch to UP we have a dozen or so working maps from UK3 ready to go. And UP has loads more options for both players and us mapmakers than 4.10 has.

+ cockpits for heavy bombers

My opinion is wait until up is released for 4.10. But leave the server 4.10 with mods allowed

Jure_502
05-01-2011, 18:03
I'm for 4.10 no mods. We have MDS now (wich far more improved IMO), nice new markings and new aircraft/weapons, beside, I can't stand the loading time of modded game.

Fusek
05-01-2011, 18:09
With 4.10 as it stand now, we lose all AI planes as flyable, but get the cartoony effects back.

sideburn
05-01-2011, 18:10
I think I might be the casual gamer Fox is talking about. I always liked the exact settings of ukded2 (external views on but dashboard locked).
I prefer spending some time configuring jsgme to being a red arrow for somebody who would not see me otherwise. I guess most people still playing IL 2 know the basics about mod usage, so given the present shortcomings of 4.1 mods might be the way to go. But you must be aware that the number of players is limited, so Uk 2 could well become the cannibal of Uk 1 and 3. But due to your outstanding maps you might as well attract players form different servers. It might be worth the effort.
And yes, I am a fighter bomber pilot.

Boemher
05-01-2011, 18:52
Settings wise UKD2 was perfect in my opinion, I have installed 4.10 now but cant get up 2.0 working (still havnt tried recently but gave it a good go last time).

It works when it works but if you have a problem there are so many things that could be causing it. I managed to get AAA mods working no problems, the old sound mod, even a no disc mod back in pre pacific fighters day but not the UP one :) yet ...

So my point is that maybe 4.10 is good for now, see if we get numbers then look at 4.10 plus new UP.201 ?

trashcanman
05-01-2011, 19:01
This is a difficult one and a lot, imho, depends upon what UP for 4.10 will look like.
- will it have the same version of Zuti as 4.10?
- will it have the G-limits as in 4.10?
- will it have the same bomb fusing?
- will UK2 be able to have 4.10 and UP4.10 players together, as the current settings on 4.09 are?

Now my brain hurts so I need to go and lie down ...

Tim
05-01-2011, 19:24
I also think 4.10 would be best for UK2.

ayrtonsenna594
05-01-2011, 19:43
I prefer the variant UK2 stays on 4.09, like it works now. If there is a good mod for 4.10, we change.

Perhaps the mods can make a election here, so that the majority decide.

Schulle

PS: is there any possibility to add some better sounds to a clean 4.10 installiation? The originally one are terrible. I tried jafa and tiger sounds. I do not run both :(

Boemher
06-01-2011, 16:01
Does anyone actually log on to UKD2 anymore ? Last two evenings I have logged on to the Server IP listed in forums and there has been no body there, i have gone on between 10.30 and 11.00 pm.

Just wondering that maybe I am on some defunct server?

Fusek
06-01-2011, 16:02
You are right, nobody goes there anymore. 4.09, especially when theres only a couple or less playing, just isn't interesting (enough).

edit; And I fear 4.10 will be even less interesting once the novelty factor has worn off. Apart for a few new planes (R-5, Do217 and Ju88A-17, of which only the Ju88 is flyable) and navigational aides it doesn't bring anything new.

stanford
06-01-2011, 16:23
Well let's get a decision nailed down on what settings to run the server on. I like Fusek's idea of a mini campaign on 2 which we can advertise. When people see the server fill up, they will join naturally. Keep it up, and it will fill itself every night.

Is there anyway to add a poll to the thread?

Fusek
06-01-2011, 16:25
Maybe you can edit the first post?

That idea of a mini campaign was with UP in mind, im not sure if it could work on 4.09 or 4.10.

Boemher
06-01-2011, 17:22
So do all the main regulars play on UKD3 and UP.20 then ?

Fusek
06-01-2011, 17:34
At the moment, the people who are flying the most are on UK1. UK3's been a bit quiet lately, I think because there are not that many people out there that like the no externals.

I have another suggestion, what if we run UK2 on 4.10, and enable externals on UK3 for a period of time, and see what works best?

ayrtonsenna594
07-01-2011, 11:46
You are right, nobody goes there anymore. (enough).

Wrong, last weeks we had the on some evenings 10-20 players. ;)

IIJG3_Karaya 1
07-01-2011, 12:02
At the moment, the people who are flying the most are on UK1. UK3's been a bit quiet lately, I think because there are not that many people out there that like the no externals.

I have another suggestion, what if we run UK2 on 4.10, and enable externals on UK3 for a period of time, and see what works best?

WOOOHOOOOO :) PLZ do that...no externals is EXACTLY the reason why im out of there :)
4.09 with UP on a UK server with externals...a DREAM come true :fluffle::fluffle::fluffle::fluffle::fluffle::fluffle::fluffle::fluffle::fluffle::fluffle::fluffle:

seldon
07-01-2011, 12:20
I for one hope that UK3 will revive to it's former glory. I've wanted to play there lately but everytime I check it's empty. Especially now that I'm rapidly losing interest for UK1, UK3 would be a good change.

UK2 already has externals on, no reason to have two servers with the same settings. I've never understood the fascination to play with cockpit on, and still have externals, and I hope UK3 will stay as it is and get players again. For me cockpit + externals is EXACTLY the reason why I never play on UK2.

Hate to be a party pooper, but that's just my 2 cents, different tastes :D

IIJG3_Karaya 1
07-01-2011, 12:53
I for one hope that UK3 will revive to it's former glory. I've wanted to play there lately but everytime I check it's empty. Especially now that I'm rapidly losing interest for UK1, UK3 would be a good change.

UK2 already has externals on, no reason to have two servers with the same settings. I've never understood the fascination to play with cockpit on, and still have externals, and I hope UK3 will stay as it is and get players again. For me cockpit + externals is EXACTLY the reason why I never play on UK2.

Hate to be a party pooper, but that's just my 2 cents, different tastes :D

sometimes...only sometimes...i dont like you :p
afterall i still prefer playing with UP and its features(effects,sounds, cockpits)...
and im too much of a noob to play without externals...i just cant handle it...
maybe we just have to adjust to stock game...and feel the happyness when an UP update comes out for 4.10 :p

Fusek
07-01-2011, 16:00
Seldon,if you want to make an effort to revive UK3 again, Im with you ;) Imalready working on a new BoB mission.

And Karaya, no externals sucks the first few times, but once you get used to it its much more immersive. You dont need a TrackIR toplay onUK3, i use only my broken hat switch and mouse. If you want you can just tag along, we'll show you the ropes ;)

seldon
07-01-2011, 16:04
Sounds good, it seems during the next few weeks I won't have time to play as much as usual, something came up that requires my time more. But I'll play when I can :)

Karaya, when I first joined to UK3 I absolutely hated playing closed pit, now I just love it, took some time to get used to. And you don't need a fancy trackir to enjoy it. I use a crappy joystick and mouse.

SMURFY1967
07-01-2011, 19:20
All UK3 needs is some of the people who disappeared to re-appear, a few of em are in here!!

Fusek
07-01-2011, 19:21
Ill join in a min!

Zorin
30-01-2011, 20:57
Any news from within the Syndicate?

SMURFY1967
30-01-2011, 21:45
Yeh Murray lost...hurrah.

Zorin
30-01-2011, 23:39
Yeh Murray lost...hurrah.

And that was the best you could come up with?

Honestly, what is the problem here?

vapour
30-01-2011, 23:51
Any news from within the Syndicate?

What news are you after?

Zorin
31-01-2011, 01:20
What news are you after?

What did the Syndicate decide with regards to the future of UKded2. Will it be updated to 4.10. If so, when? Will is keep its settings or not.

Pretty much the same questions that were asked when I made this thread.

vapour
31-01-2011, 08:09
Well the chat at the minute is about IL2 CoD, we haven't heard any news on dedicated servers or what spec a server machine will have to be to run the game. If our hardware is able to run the game then we certainly want to run CoD on one server to start with.

So to answer you question Zorin, it hasn't been talked about. If enough of you want it I don't see the problem. as long as you realise that there will probably be some changes in a couple of months (hardware permitting). All the pros and cons of each server will be discussed, one of the 3 will run Cliffs of Dover instead of IL2 in whatever guise.

Why not set up a poll?

SMURFY1967
31-01-2011, 10:49
If Uk3`s machine is dead, the options will or might be limited further. UK1 will almost certainly be kept running IL2, it`s the most popular by a country mile. UK2 is more often than not completely empty, UK3 was in he same boat more or less, perhaps the odd burst of activity with a hardcore of 5 or 6, unfortunately the mickey mouse BoB server seems to have pulled all Uk3s customers away, don`t know why, it seems mission based servers don`t attract the point shoot mob. So we`ll probably need the best spec server for CoD, 1 server for UK1 and a webserver, I`m not sure how many servers we have I think it`s 4 but i`m not sure. It`s up for debate in the Syndicate area, but until we know the server requirements for CoD we`re in limbo.

NS-IceFire
14-02-2011, 00:00
BTW: I'm making some inquiries regarding IL-2: CoD dedicated server requirements, however, none have been officially released yet so it may be much closer to release before we know what the requirements are.

Firelok
21-02-2011, 17:54
It's worth considering 4.10m with the ultrapack stuff. If only that lots of those maps were made with unusual non-flyable planes in them (things like B17s etc etc) seeing as these have been added in the ultrapack. However if you want it to be really popular run a very limited amount of maps that just involve Spits and 109s :-D

I'm not sure how much die-off there will be because of Cliffs of Dover the plane choice is severely flippin limited.

Firelok
21-02-2011, 23:57
UkDed2 isn't visible on hyperlobby (at least for me anyways) but you can fly it directly from IL2. Don't really understand why it isnt on hyperlobby, if it's not visible no-one gonna fly it.

Fusek
22-02-2011, 00:07
Can we at least patch it to 4.10.1? Please?

Firelok
02-03-2011, 10:05
Can we at least patch it to 4.10.1? Please?

Yep what Fusek said. :-)

Tim
03-03-2011, 17:29
It would be great to fly there again!

Firelok
05-03-2011, 11:36
We could enable zuti mod and 4.10, run with externals enabled but NO EXTERNAL PADLOCK which keeps the flexibility and scenario variety that allowing AI planes brings, then rebuild say 12 of the best UK2 maps to run with zuti.

Fusek
05-03-2011, 17:18
in other words run Ultrapack on uk2?

Zorin
05-03-2011, 17:28
Would this mean none mod users can't play? That would rule me out and so doesn't get my vote.

Fusek
05-03-2011, 17:32
Well yes, Zuti's MDF is a mod. Stock players cant join a server running zuti's and vice versa.

Kang
05-03-2011, 19:14
I admit I'm fairly out of it all by now, but wasn't one of the points of 4.10 to enable moving dogfight capabilities thus rendering the Zuti mod redundant? I guess you gave that some thought and there is a technical reason to propose having both, but could anybody please enlighten me in regards of that reason?

Fusek
05-03-2011, 19:42
Not all the features of the modded version are in the 4.10 version.

Firelok
06-03-2011, 01:33
We could enable zuti mod and 4.10, run with externals enabled but NO EXTERNAL PADLOCK which keeps the flexibility and scenario variety that allowing AI planes brings, then rebuild say 12 of the best UK2 maps to run with zuti.

I've not understood all this correctly. The zuti /ultrapack thingy works with 4.09 not 4.10. So better for it to be 4.10 and hope the 'no external padlock' thing gets patched in later. The zuti mod is kind of a beta version for whats slowly getting added to IL2 official. Lots of the content has come this way over time I gather that those team daidalos types just didn't enable all of the {zuti}Moving Dogfight Server modifications in one go.
So we can have moving ship targets but not moving train targets etc etc. Shame that.

Fusek
06-03-2011, 01:40
We can have both moving ship and train targets, but we can't have rearming & reloading, paratrooper/air drops or moving frontlines with bases that can be captured.

Zorin
06-03-2011, 04:24
We can have both moving ship and train targets, but we can't have rearming & reloading, paratrooper/air drops or moving frontlines with bases that can be captured.

But as we do not run some kind of ongoing war scenario, they are not needed in the first place.

Fusek
06-03-2011, 15:00
But the discussion is about wanting to restricted external camera's, which is a part of it.

But can it at least be updated to 4.10.1 please? It would take a bit of pressure of UK1 :)

Another idea I had, can't we make UK2 a ' gentleman's' server? People that have proven to fly as team and have good behaviour. Not necessarily admins and supporters, but just all those great guys we've met over the years.

Cobra
06-03-2011, 19:11
UK2 ' gentleman's' server !!!

my opinion would relieve uk1

OttO
07-03-2011, 02:55
Any word on getting this updated to 4.10.1m???

Firelok
07-03-2011, 03:24
I'd be quite happy to covert a bunch of the best maps to MDS/FBDj versions.

sideburn
11-03-2011, 18:13
Is there any news? I am sure I am not the only one not quiet comfortable with UK_Ded 1 settings.

SMURFY1967
11-03-2011, 18:52
It`s 4.10.1m now.

SMURFY1967
11-03-2011, 18:56
Tested and working, possibility that it`s defaulted to crt 2, i`ll go have a look.

Fusek
11-03-2011, 19:00
Thanks a lot smurf! Can you post what maps are on the cycle at the moment?

SMURFY1967
11-03-2011, 19:02
It`s crt 0, until the new version of FBDj comes out there appears to be no quick fix for server settings, FBDj loads the settings when eaach map starts and it doesn`t have the new options in 4.10.1 available for selection yet. Not sure if you can do it in the FMB though?.

SMURFY1967
11-03-2011, 19:04
No Fusek I can`t be arsed to sit and write that lot down mate. A UK2 regular admin with server access will have to do that, you`ve got access mate, it`s the same pw and log in name as UK3, just change the .11 at the end to a .13 when entering the server address.

Fusek
11-03-2011, 19:06
Understood ;) Ill have a look later tonight.

Firelok
11-03-2011, 19:25
Great news.
Thanks guys so much for doing this upgrade. :D

Quite a few of the maps will need to be poked about a bit. Sorting out target indicators, Fog of War issues, restricting markings and loadouts in FMB.
I have the time and I'm very willing to help fix things, if the syndicate is OK with that.

I appreciate that quite a number of folks aren't bothered about UK2 but I see no reason why it shouldn't be utilised as much as UK1 both of them used to be full after all.

Smury's fixed the engine on the old banger, she just needs a bit of TLC in the bodyshop :)

Zorin
11-03-2011, 19:28
Great news.
Thanks so much for doing this. :D

Quite a few of the maps will need to be poked about a bit. Sorting out target indicators, Fog of War issues, restricting markings and loadouts in FMB.
I have the time and I'm very willing to help fix things, if the syndicate is OK with that.

I appreciate that quite a number of folks aren't bothered about UK2 but I see no reason why it shouldn't be utilised as much as UK1 both of them used to be full after all.

I would be very grateful if you would do this. Feel free to include my two latest maps, Sevastopol and Operation Pedestal, for a first circle as they are already build with the new 4.101 features.

SMURFY1967
11-03-2011, 19:29
Why don`t you rejoin the syndicate mate. I`m not bothered purely because of the ability to scan the skies with Ctrl F2 which is about as unrealistic as it gets imo, if there was an option to disable that and F6 id happily play there.

IIJG3_Karaya 1
11-03-2011, 19:40
id be quite unhappy with that cause i use F6 a LOT..xD..but im working on it to become a better pilot :P

Id love to see Uk2 online again with some players on it :) better difficulty settings as Uk1 afterall :)

602RAF_Menden
12-03-2011, 13:01
Just spent a few hours on UK2 this morning ... loved it :) ... I'll be making the switch to the server, slightly better settings for me as Trackir and full cockpit is redundant on UK1 ... thanks for making it flyable again :)

Firelok
13-03-2011, 06:51
I'm going to put some time in and revamp our maps here now as I'm Orange again. i'll start a new thread here with an update maps list when i'm completed. Maybe it'll take a few days.

Fusek
13-03-2011, 11:43
If you want we can share the workload mate :) Im also converting a couple of maps to UK2 standards, as well as making some new ones.

Tim
15-03-2011, 18:51
Myself and Fusek are on UK2 atm.

Zorin
15-03-2011, 22:49
Flew Istra and Anapa tonight and noticed target markers on the base selection screen. Is this supposed to be like this?

Fusek
15-03-2011, 22:53
Nope, and there also isnt any in cockpit padlock. Settings need to be fiddled with, but I thrust Firelok with that :D

Zorin
15-03-2011, 23:32
Nope, and there also isnt any in cockpit padlock. Settings need to be fiddled with, but I thrust Firelok with that :D

While you guys fiddle, do you think you could get the FoW settings right? Pretty please :)

Firelok
16-03-2011, 09:14
The target markers are there because I suspect they are still on because server commander used them, if you remember. After that a 4.09 version of FBD would just ignore them. Run the same map on 4.101 and they are visible.

As for the FOW setting, I love the idea of these but I'm not entirely sure the current version 1.5 of FBD uses them. The same is true of some of the other newer difficulty switches. Download and have a look at FBDj 1.5 not all the available difficulty switches are present in the FBD menu. What we can do is enable what we can and make the new UK2Ded map cycle ready for Full 4.101 compliance.
Fusek and Me are putting some work in on a new cycle, with revamped 4.10 MDS maps and some new maps too. We want to get it right not rush into things but there will be exciting new developments here soon.

What I'd really like is some new first class Zorin-made exclusive UK2 content, if you could help us with that. :)

Kang
16-03-2011, 20:15
I've tried connecting to #2 without success a few times now, chances are it's about something on my side, but just to be sure: has anyone flown on the relaunched server without the use of mods yet?

Firelok
16-03-2011, 20:21
I was on there 20 minutes ago via hyperlobby. All looks Ok.

Zorin
16-03-2011, 23:33
The target markers are there because I suspect they are still on because server commander used them, if you remember. After that a 4.09 version of FBD would just ignore them. Run the same map on 4.101 and they are visible.

As for the FOW setting, I love the idea of these but I'm not entirely sure the current version 1.5 of FBD uses them. The same is true of some of the other newer difficulty switches. Download and have a look at FBDj 1.5 not all the available difficulty switches are present in the FBD menu. What we can do is enable what we can and make the new UK2Ded map cycle ready for Full 4.101 compliance.
Fusek and Me are putting some work in on a new cycle, with revamped 4.10 MDS maps and some new maps too. We want to get it right not rush into things but there will be exciting new developments here soon.

Too bad we can't get in touch with the guys over at greatgreen to get this sorted. Hope they are back soon.


What I'd really like is some new first class Zorin-made exclusive UK2 content, if you could help us with that. :)

Any special wishes?

Firelok
16-03-2011, 23:52
I think we can get Fog of War and G force limits etc working. I'm looking into it.

I'm going to post elsewhere about a 'standard' approach to Fog of War settings.

As for special wishes, do something you really think will work well.
There aren't any restrictions due to us already having a scenario of a certain type, for example.

Zorin
17-03-2011, 00:49
I think we can get Fog of War and G force limits etc working. I'm looking into it.

I'm going to post elsewhere about a 'standard' approach to Fog of War settings.

As for special wishes, do something you really think will work well.
There aren't any restrictions due to us already having a scenario of a certain type, for example.

Guess that means pumping some life into a late 1942 eastern front scenario.

Firelok
17-03-2011, 12:17
Guess that means pumping some life into a late 1942 eastern front scenario.

I've had a think about this overnight what about Salerno? http://www.rafbeachunits.info/html/_avalanche_.html
Operation Avalanche? RAF flyables vs Luftwaffe, with USAAF and IAF as AI units in the 'background'?

Zorin
18-03-2011, 01:09
I've had a think about this overnight what about Salerno? http://www.rafbeachunits.info/html/_avalanche_.html
Operation Avalanche? RAF flyables vs Luftwaffe, with USAAF and IAF as AI units in the 'background'?

Aye, Sir. I will give it a try. :)

Fusek
19-03-2011, 19:33
Flying on UK2 now. If some of the guys that hold a warm heart to UK2 could join, it would be very nice evening! Use Hyperlobby if you can please :)

Firelok
19-03-2011, 19:39
Flying on UK2 now. If some of the guys that hold a warm heart to UK2 could join, it would be very nice evening! Use Hyperlobby if you can please :)

Good flying Fusek. I'm off to see Professor Elemental this evening so no flying for me. Some of the updated maps have replaced maps on the current cycle, some will be quite different.

Fusek
19-03-2011, 19:50
Thanks Firelok. Could you tell me which maps are updated?

And are you wearing your dancing of fighting trousers tonight? :D

Zorin
20-03-2011, 08:06
Thanks Firelok. Could you tell me which maps are updated?

And are you wearing your dancing of fighting trousers tonight? :D

Yes, a mapcycle would be nice to have.

Firelok
20-03-2011, 09:17
Two things...

1. Professor Elemental is a damned fine Chap and I have met him in his actual Fighting Trousers yesterday evening , an event I shall be telling the grand-kids about.:)

2. There is a map cycle I've been working at for the last week. I've tested the maps and have been making corrections. I thought it was important to make the New Cycle maps 4.101 and MDS compliant. Aiming to have recon features where appropriate and make sure things are correct and not scruffy. I've attended to 16 maps in this way in the last week.And I'm not putting anything up that isn't almost entirely right.

Fusek
20-03-2011, 10:29
Fair enough, looking forward to the maps!

Zorin
22-03-2011, 23:13
Are skin downloads actually available?

Firelok
01-07-2011, 02:26
The Fog of War / Mini map settings for UP3 MDS are driving me flipping potty. Even just having the players aircraft showing on the minimap on it's own is proving impossible for me to figure. Correct boxes checked in Hyperlobby, FMBj1.8, and the in-mission MDS settings. To get so far setting this up and then not to complete the task is infuriating.Gah.!

Bone Head
01-07-2011, 08:43
Im sure you know this but clicking boxes in hyperlobby wont alter the server settings, I'm sure ....i think, but I have had problems with UK3 in the past. For some reason hyperlobby doesnt remember the settings you ticked, so every time you start damned thing you had to go back through the list. Not sure why because UK1 and 2 never did it. :confused:

Bone Head
01-07-2011, 08:45
Did you really go to a Prof Elemental gig?

If you did Im impressed were pith helmets required?

Firelok
01-07-2011, 16:29
FBDj alters/renews the difficulty before each mission,Hyperlobby is more about what gets 'displayed' in terms of difficulty. So the problem is with something further 'down the line'. I'm suspecting it's UP 3 itself or I'm being very thick.


Did you really go to a Prof Elemental gig?

If you did Im impressed were pith helmets required?

I could never get the pith helmet over my hair, I went as a native ;)

LeVola
29-07-2011, 07:13
Set the HUD settings so we can see player markings and numbers when pressing "S"(only 2 maps done so far Aalesund and Dover, must babysit the kids at the same time...)
We need it for admining the players. Also we tweaked the dot settings a bit.

Any feedback more than welcome!

LeVola
29-07-2011, 10:27
Ok now player numbers/markings are visible when pressing "s" on every map.

Hoodoodat
29-07-2011, 20:22
We need to fix the carrier take off timing on some maps. Many times players don't have near enough time to get off the deck before the server removes them. OttO, Pain, seldon, and I experimented today...OttO was in front of me on the carrier deck. I was kicked off the carrier before I even started rolling down the deck. Let's discuss that. It's bad. This will make players leave the server for sure.

Also, there;s a problem with carrier take off in the Nordsee map. Release chocks, plane doesn't move. You have to tap the brake key supposedly, but that doesn't always work either. A quick fix may be just an air start for all and call it good.:)

PS: Lev...the player HUD change is good, and the dot settings seem to work well. Thanks.