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Brcn
11-01-2006, 08:06
Hi,

Please put your ideas here.

Thanks

RAF_WhiteEagle
11-01-2006, 08:44
All maps front without i-16 i-153 and jets.

Btw did u get my maps?

Tomik
11-01-2006, 09:56
I prefer maps with Spitfires, LA5FN and LAGs. I-16 and I-153 are coool....
Hurris vs Messers I flew yesterday evening (desert map) was great as well.
I "hate" US vs JAPs maps.

RAF_WhiteEagle
11-01-2006, 10:22
Not only you.

Yellow 2
11-01-2006, 12:42
Just some quick thoughts. The type of maps used on UKD2 may for time depend on how many players it is attracting. The intention is to have a full server to rival server1 but for some time it may only be half full. In this case would we want a big map such as Kurland which people already complain about as they cannot find the action. I think maps on UKD2 initially should promote action and those maps with ground targets within a short flying distance of airfields will help with this.Yesterday the server was running with no aircraft icons showing, which for me is fine, if this continues night maps will be even more difficult as you will not have the benefit of seeing the icon before the aircraft.

If we wish to build a solid regular base of players for UKD2 I do believe that we should not restrict the types of maps or aircraft available. We want to attract all types of players;those who are there for the European airwar, those who like the eastern front and those who like the Pacific and of course those like me that want everything.

On this subject someone posted that our current map set up was too varied and aircraft sets changed too frequently. I think the the argument was that your favourite aircraft could not be flown all the time. My opinion is that the variety of quality maps and the chance to fly many different aircraft in the course of two or three hours is one of the things that attracts me to the server and I believe that we would be foolish to change it.

Just my views to add to the pot :D

FlyingFinn
11-01-2006, 15:53
P.11s vs. latewar FWs

FlyingFinn
11-01-2006, 15:54
Maybe a WWI replica map with only those c*appy bi-planes?

I-153s as German fockers and ... and ... :D

Aleksa
11-01-2006, 16:05
I think maps on UKD2 initially should promote action and those maps with ground targets within a short flying distance of airfields will help with this.
IMO Yellow 2 just hit the spot.Nothing more or less.

Gordano
11-01-2006, 19:07
Maybe some maps with more emphasis on bombers and ground attack rather than fighters.

This should make the server more enjoyable for those who are not as good with full cockpit or having trouble getting to grips with it.

It will enable them to still score points and they will not be as vulnerable as they are on a cockpit off server with wonder woman. It will also enable them to learn the tricks and techniques needed to fly full cockpit servers.

Brcn
11-01-2006, 20:14
Hi,

Using the maps we have is the easier way of course. But I prefer to make new maps for the 2nd server. As Gordano suggested, I want to make nice maps for bombers. And JtD's suggestion is also good. We can try a new mapset -Eastern Front 41-45, Western Front 39-45, Pacific Front etc. - We can have these sets be played in the server, let's say weekly. This would make us different from other servers with similar settings. And the outcome of the maps can be different as it was suggested by Norris before (when a team wins, it will get more bonuses, such as closer targets, less targets to win etc, anything you can count as an advantage). I know this is quite a number of maps for the map builder, but in a couple of days I will have a lot of time for this task. I just want to do something that most of us want here.

Kaster, yes I have the maps, but nowadays I don't have much time, in a couple of days they will be added to the map set of UK1. Sorry for the delay.

norrismcwhirter
12-01-2006, 00:08
Some suggestions here (for another server):

http://www.battle-fields.com/commscentre/showthread.php?t=9716

I posted in there about having the odd fun map thrown in. I wouldn't want to see too many of these but after an infrequent "heavy" map, it might nice to see an infrequent "fun" map.

Ta,
norris

Grey_Mouser
12-01-2006, 00:42
I'd like to see a map with some airstarts combined with a limited set of planes...kind that might try to elevate the action to high altitude....

Something like Fw190A-6 and He-111 vs P-47D and B-25...airstart with objectives that can be acheived from 15,000 ft and a bombsight...distance between bases would have to be enough to warrent a climb to altitude, but not so much as to be boring....tough I know

P-38J & P-47 vs. A6M5 and Ki-61 over New Guinea...throw in Ki-43 for the suicidal.

MajorDamage
12-01-2006, 13:23
I'd like to see a map with some airstarts combined with a limited set of planes...kind that might try to elevate the action to high altitude....

Yeah I'm with Mouser, it'd be nice to see some action above 3000m for a change. There's a whole other world up there you know.

I'd also like to see a few more Pacific maps in general, both on UK1 and UK2. the Historia server has a great Guadalcanal map with Bettys and H8K1s airstarting over Savo Island (representing land based planes from Rabaul) attacking Henderson field.

Yellow 2
12-01-2006, 14:42
Yeah I'm with Mouser, it'd be nice to see some action above 3000m for a change. There's a whole other world up there you know.
I'd also like to see a few more Pacific maps in general, both on UK1 and UK2. the Historia server has a great Guadalcanal map with Bettys and H8K1s airstarting over Savo Island (representing land based planes from Rabaul) attacking Henderson field.

With the current dot range on UKD2 I find that over water I can spot an aircraft 4K below me. This improved visabilty may push aircraft higher anyway.

As for the Gaudalcanal scenario I have been thinking the same thing Major. What about the 7th August 1942 when U.S. Marines landed on Gaudalcanal and Tulagi. Bettys and Vals going after the transports escorted by Zeros. Wildcats defending with Dauntlesses attacking installations on Gaudalcanal and Tulagi.

Cheers :)

Mysticpuma2004
12-01-2006, 15:11
Mouser said: I'd like to see a map with some airstarts combined with a limited set of planes...kind that might try to elevate the action to high altitude....

Something like Fw190A-6 and He-111 vs P-47D and B-25...airstart with objectives that can be acheived from 15,000 ft and a bombsight...distance between bases would have to be enough to warrent a climb to altitude, but not so much as to be boring....tough I know

P-38J & P-47 vs. A6M5 and Ki-61 over New Guinea...throw in Ki-43 for the suicidal


Well I say BUUUMMMPPP!

I sadly miss the '47 on the UKD servers, but totally agree with the above.

I think it could be one or the other, not both at the same time, so that Axis have He-111 or 109 (nothing else) and the allies have P-47 or lightning (or spitfire and hurricane ( but no-one will fly hurri!)).

Axis need to bomb a target, Allies need to defend. Hopefully with an airstart, it will make more players want to try a bomber mission rather than the 10 minute takeoff to get to altitude before they get started on a strategy of attack. It may also instill teamwork in the bomber side to have fighters fly CAP.

Then with a map rotation the allies have the B-25 and P-47, the axis have 109 and FW. The same scenario as above but reversed. It would be great on Teamspeak with the guys flying fighter CAP over the bombers. Awesome high alt df's with the bombers trying to stay on target with the chaos all around.

I would advise against flak (or have very, vey limitedflak) around the target run, as with sniper flak it would kill the enthusiasm very quickly.

Anyway back to maps. I'd prefer lots of ground attack missions (railyard,tanks, bridge with train on, arms dump, fueld dumps etc) to encourage bomber missions. But please limit the planeset to one or two per side. That way players (with the increased dot-range) can start to identify friendly and enemy ac.

And please have a few maps with much later aircraft sets.

Cheers, MP.

Bulldog73
12-01-2006, 15:30
My opinion is that the variety of quality maps and the chance to fly many different aircraft in the course of two or three hours is one of the things that attracts me to the server and I believe that we would be foolish to change it.

I agree, this sort of thing keeps it fresh. Always on your toes.. Rather than spend all night in a Spit or Yak or whatever.

Last night flew about 4 planes on 4 different maps.. :cool:

Having said that... Brcn's suggestion of

We can try a new mapset -Eastern Front 41-45, Western Front 39-45, Pacific Front etc. - We can have these sets be played in the server, let's say weekly.
.. also sounds good... two extremes I guess. decisions decisions...

*gets a coin*

And finally we could have a sing song with this "theatre"

South, Pacific etc. :p

LeadSucker
20-01-2006, 13:18
Early war crap planes/biplanes would be fun.

NS-IceFire
31-01-2006, 02:33
Just so you guys know....I'm currently working on:

- Objective_AutumnStorm (September 1945 VVS vs Japanese) - Major update adding new bases and aircraft as well as targets
- Objective_Remagen (March 1945 Western Front) - Historical "last days" Western Front map detailing Allied bridge crossings and anti-tank operations
- Objective_Tirpitz - Minor rebalancing to the target areas
- Objective_BismarckSea (Pacific 1943) - Convoy of Japanese ships attacked by Allied fighters and bombers
- Untitled scenario to take advantage of the new Italian fighters in a 1944 scenario
- Untitled scenario to take advantage of the "fantasy" aircraft including the YP-80, Do-335, Go-229.

TheDawg
01-02-2006, 22:02
Why no maps with Jets?
Why no maps with more crap planes?
I love 'em all, we paid for all of them.
I LOVE flying all those planes. I'd like to see more both ends of the plane sets, 41-43 gets old.
I digs 'em all.

Firelok
04-03-2006, 03:08
In 1944 Lt-Gen Doolittle initiated large scale fighter sweeps ahead of the bomber formations over Germany. Rather than flying in close support of the bombers this aimed to engage german fighters before they got anywhere near the bombers. As an idea to simulate this what about a pure fighters map? no ground targets the aim is purely to destroy the enemy fighter groups.
USAAF Fighters vs Luftwaffe with airstarts a fair way away from each other to encourage high altitude engagements?
Just a thought :)