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    Fw-190

    Hi guys
    What are the highs and lows of the various FW-190 marks? How do you get the most out of them? How do the different marks compare?

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    Well, posted on the Spit thread so why not.

    Armament issue again.

    FW-190 A-5 2 x 20 mm MG-151/20 Cannon with 250 r.p.g + 2 x 20 mm MG-FF Cannon with 60 r.p.g
    FW-190 A-6 4 x 20 mm MG-151/20 Cannon with 250 r.p.g

    The MG-FF is worse than MG-151/20 and has far less ammo. Plus A-6 is also faster on the deck than A-5.

    The two Anton-5s (FW-190 A-5 and FW-190 A-5 1.65 ATA) we have are pretty similar except the boosted 1.65 ATA has a higher Sea Level speed & it's slower up high.

    Between the A-4 and A-5 there's a major difference in speed but the armament stays the same.

    FW-190 A-5 Speed Sea Level (Km/h): 568
    FW-190 A-4 Speed Sea Level (Km/h): 541

    A-8 and A-9 are very similar except A-9 has more HPs so it goes faster. Maybe some added armorplating aswell.

    FW-190 A-8 [1450 HP] Speed Sea Level (Km/h): 577 / Speed At 5600m (Km/h): 647(?)
    FW-190 A-9 [1650 HP] Speed Sea Level (Km/h): 587 / Speed At 5600m (Km/h): 673

    The two late Doras we have are similar in performace. The earlier Dora has slightly better aspects in turn, speed and climb. Also it doesn't have the MW50 so you can toggle the boost on without decreasing power below 100%.

    We have two later models called Ta-152 C and Ta-152 H-1. The C model has hardpoints for the wire-controlled X-4 missiles and is faster down low but suffers from a very low turningspeed. The H-1 is the big-wing design with faster top speed at high altidutes.

    Ta-152 C
    1 x 30 mm MK-108 cannon with 90 rounds,
    4 x MG-151/20 cannon with 175 r.p.g
    2 x X-4 wire-guided air-to-air missiles
    Ta-152 H-1
    1 x 30 mm MK-108 Cannon with 90 rounds,
    2 x 20 mm MG-151/20 Cannon with 175 r.p.g
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    I think the -45 Dora is faster at the sealevel than -44 Dora.
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    heres the best advice

    1. take off & climb for 10 seconds then level out
    2. start a level flight circle (left or right will do)
    3. close eyes
    4. pull trigger
    5. when ammo expended open eyes
    6. land with at least 3 kills in your pocket
    7 repeat above throughout remainder of mission

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    he he he menden.

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    Actually the A8 and A9 are more different from each other that A4 and A5/6 when it come to performance. A9 as more horses under the bonnet, but more importantly it has a wooden paddle prop similar to those in Doras and Tas, this gives it better acceleration especially at low speeds. Also the engine is geared differently giving the A9 better performance from 1000m to 3000m, this is also true when you compare the A8 and A5 ATA1.65 to normal A5/6.

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    question: what is your personal experience with the wing mounted mk108s (A-8 & A-9)? you piloting the FW of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxchamp View Post
    question: what is your personal experience with the wing mounted mk108s (A-8)? you piloting the FW of course.
    A big don't or the bomber pilots around here will hate you for life. See here:

    http://battle-fields.com/commscentre...t=butcher+bird

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    that must have hurt

    i'm asking because i find them extremely inaccurate (apart from using them against bombers)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxchamp View Post
    that must have hurt

    i'm asking because i find them extremely inaccurate (apart from using them against bombers)
    They are not inaccurate, the targets just move too quick

    The muzzle velocity is rather low so you should get close before firing or use enough deflection and attack on an angle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorin View Post
    They are not inaccurate, the targets just move too quick

    The muzzle velocity is rather low so you should get close before firing or use enough deflection and attack on an angle
    my problem is during headon attacks. if i want to hit with the 20mms, the 30 mm shells go underneath the attacker. and vice versa.

    yes i could use the guns separately but i know how intimidating a FW looks, coming at you, all guns blazing. + the sound of the 108 scares ppl shitless

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    I dont remember when I used 108s last time, maybe channel44 map to shoot landingcrafts.
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    The outer cannons always have less ammo than the cannons in the wing root, no matter which model (except for the Ta152C).

    Flight performance of the standard A5 and A6 is the same IIRC.

    The A4 has 1580hp at 2400 rpm and 1780 hp at 2700 rpm (pp 100%)
    The A5/A6 have 1800hp at 2700 rpm
    The A8 has 2050hp at 2700 rpm
    The A9 has 2300hp at 2700 rpm
    The D9 has 2240hp
    The Ta152H has 2050hp
    Dont know the power rating of the TA152C, different engine.

    The F8 is pretty much similar to the A8, but with reduced armament (reduced weight) and different supercharger settings, optimized for low level flight.

    Engage Erhöhte Notleistung whenever you want, it gives a nice boost at all throttle settings.

    Better engage MW50 before igniting the engine, if you do otherwise it might damage the engine.
    MW50 only becomes active above 100% throttle.
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    Ta152C:

    2000PS at 2700 rpm

    Ta152H:

    1870PS at 3200 rpm

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    Are you sure about the Ta152H Zorin? I got the data right out of the game's view objects section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonko View Post
    Are you sure about the Ta152H Zorin? I got the data right out of the game's view objects section.
    Well, I do not refer to the object viewer.

    The Ta152H1 we have was either fitted with the Jumo213E-0 or E-1:

    E-0: 1870PS

    E-1: 1750PS

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    >>>

    The F8 model in-game seems to be slower than the A4.

    Is the performance really so tragic, or am I mistaken?
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    Putting prop pitch on 100% gives a slight advantage in zoom climbs (~50-100m extra), but almost no advantage on the flat.

    It might give you a extra second to hang on the prop if you need it.
    watch out for over-rev and engage it at the very start of the zoom climb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxchamp View Post
    question: what is your personal experience with the wing mounted mk108s (A-8 & A-9)? you piloting the FW of course.
    I find them totally unnecessary unless you're flying against a large formation of heavy bombers. Muzzle velocity is low and the spread is much higher than the MG151/20. So unless you need to hammer your target to absolute oblivion the 20mm is better for accuracy and still allows you to blow aircraft to pieces.
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    What is the difference between Erhote Notleistung and MW50?

    How do I engage either or both? I know to hit W key when engine at idle.

    I need to know more, lol

    Thanks

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