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Old 27-08-2005, 04:44 PM
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fresh start?

levola is close to 1000 kills and cobham nearly smacked up 3000 gr.targets... maybe we need a stats reset, what do admins think about it?
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Old 27-08-2005, 06:15 PM
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Suits me.

I'd like to propose that we reset once a month and give out an 'virtual award' for:

Most air kills
Most ground kills
Best # of times on winning side for map (not sure if this is possible)
Best run without death
Best k/d
Best new flier (not new to server but novice flier)

This will no doubt re-start the stats arguments in terms of do they or do they not cause behaviour which we'd prefer not to have in the server (kill stealing etc). Also, it serves no purpose to me because I'm unlikely to win anything

But, if we are going to have stats, why not give out what amounts to a fun award, no matter how meaningless?

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Old 27-08-2005, 06:25 PM
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brilliant idea!!

maybe top5 of each of them...
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Old 27-08-2005, 07:52 PM
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Great idea m8


Can we also give prizes to those like me who get the worst k/d ratio? .. or the highest amount of bullets fired without hitting anything heh


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Old 28-08-2005, 12:04 AM
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I'd like to see also a prize "Most fired bullets" or "Best hit/miss %"

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Old 28-08-2005, 05:55 AM
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I fear for some players health - with the motivation of awards they will spent even more time on the server. Instead of 12 hours/ day they might go up to 16.
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Old 28-08-2005, 09:07 AM
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I am not against resetting the stats. A fresh start is always good.
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Old 28-08-2005, 09:28 AM
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Hi,

So, it seems we have a generally positive response to that. I'll try to make some cheesy trophy jpgs and we could have a sticky where these are listed at the end of each reset. This looks like a good candidate for modification:

http://www.first-to-fly.com/History%...t%20Trophy.jpg

I'm sure the novelty will wear off after 1 month but....

I like the idea of the 'wooden spoons', Scrap

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Old 28-08-2005, 09:35 AM
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Do most players not generally know how others are doing anyway? I quite like the idea of it being understated and not in your face, I dont like the thought of kill steaing increasing ect and it may also have an adverse effect on team play. I know who (roughly) would win the best of each of the categoraries you mentioned and Im sure most of us regulars are in the same boat. If we were to come up with a shortlist of the most effective fighters, bombers, accurate shooters, highest K/D ratio, most total kills ect We could name the top 10 of each pretty easily.

You may think its strange that I feel this way but I think it would actually change the server

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Old 28-08-2005, 09:44 AM
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I know what you're saying which is why I'd also drop it straight away if any aggro started because of it.

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Old 28-08-2005, 10:30 AM
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Like a said online already, I don't really care much about the awards. I fly like I do, sometimes on a mission but mostly just for fun - blowing up stuff in the air and on the ground. This won't change with the awards.

I wonder how kills streaks and won mission (ratio) would be counted, though.

I with Roland & Norris, if the awards lead to more unhealthy competition on the server, they should be dropped immediately. It's not worth it.
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Old 28-08-2005, 10:36 AM
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Reset stats pls.
I want one award - Ground Targets.
If u see stats there is maybe %0 players who care about winning map. There is lots of servers when u cn Kill Kill Kill but only on this one u have ground target and u are Ace if destroy them and get back to base.
Anyone can get kill its easy but to destroy battleship with fighter cover thats is what i like.Often i get in when server is empty just to destroy targets fo fun and i dont have to worry about fighter who want to kill me becouse i fly bomber.
Even i would like to(if this possible) to delete air kills from stats. U want stats get Sturmolog

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Old 28-08-2005, 11:02 AM
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Wouldn't it be better for kill-stealing behaviors if we reset the stats every month or so ? I think it would be. I don't think the problem could go even worse than it is right now, with "permanent stats".
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Old 28-08-2005, 01:26 PM
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I hate reseting the stats it gives me nightmares
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Old 28-08-2005, 01:29 PM
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I think blatant kill stealing has actually reduced of late. Admittedly, I haven't been in as much but I've seen far fewer complaints about it than usual; of course, I've been in when certain players haven't so that might have had a lot to do with it

The idea of the awards is to make them almost so meaningless that they don't actually matter and they're just there for pure fun.

The bottom line is that there are a core of players who will always be in the running for the top number of kills etc and I don't believe any of them blatantly kill steal. That should mean that those not in the running to win have any extra incentive to kill steal.

Anyway, I didn't want to kick off another stats debate. I can quite easily leave the idea if it's going to cause any aggro.

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Old 28-08-2005, 02:05 PM
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Like a said online already, I don't really care much about the awards. I fly like I do, sometimes on a mission but mostly just for fun - blowing up stuff in the air and on the ground. This won't change with the awards.

I wonder how kills streaks and won mission (ratio) would be counted, though.

I with Roland & Norris, if the awards lead to more unhealthy competition on the server, they should be dropped immediately. It's not worth it.
Stats itself even without awards are providing fertile ground for kill stealing, point whoring etc. It is good to have stats, but there is also a bad side of the story involved.
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Old 28-08-2005, 02:25 PM
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I personally love to have stats. It gives the game a different flavour. Of course there would be people who will spoil the fun sometimes, but there are many admins around to control the situation. If the awards for certain fields are accepted, i will accept to try to prevent anyone from spoiling the fun for others. I don't think kill stealing will be hard to stop. With a big warning added to the briefing and the forums, and with some harsh policy for kill stealers the problem will cease very quickly.
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Old 28-08-2005, 03:54 PM
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I personally love to have stats. It gives the game a different flavour. Of course there would be people who will spoil the fun sometimes, but there are many admins around to control the situation. If the awards for certain fields are accepted, i will accept to try to prevent anyone from spoiling the fun for others. I don't think kill stealing will be hard to stop. With a big warning added to the briefing and the forums, and with some harsh policy for kill stealers the problem will cease very quickly.
Agreed 100%.
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Old 29-08-2005, 07:00 AM
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Quote:
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I'd like to propose that we reset once a month and give out an 'virtual award' for:
Most air kills
Bad idea - me often can see some of our "ground killers" in time when nobody are on server. So them can shoot many ground targets without any risk(exept AAA of cource )
For example: now 11:40 Moscow time - only ElCascone is bombing ground targets on BF-110G and have 1300 points
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Old 29-08-2005, 07:22 AM
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Reset stats, I think we could reset them every month or every second month.
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